DUST Search - Angers me to say, but they were right about the Scout Suit.

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Tyrus Madison wrote:

Guess I really just needed a different perspective to realize it.

You can do everything the Scout suit can do, in the Assault suit. Scout Suit has no real advantage over it.

I'm wearing the Assault suit on this guy, and playing nearly the same way I played on my Scout character, and I don't feel any different at all, and I don't feel like I am missing anything. and in fact I am doing slightly better because my suit is more Sturdy and I can stand up against someone, instead of having to run.

CCP needs to defiine exactly what the Scout Suit is for, and give it advantages towards that end.

is it a Stealth Suit, or is it a face-to-face combat suit?

if it is a Stealth Suit, then come out and say so, and put an end to all the bickering. and implement cloaking and make cloaking a distinct advantage of the Scout Suit. if you give cloaking to everyone, then the Scout suit STILL won't have a real, tangible advantage.

if it is a face-to-face combat suit, then give its strafing speed back.

right now, its basically a free kill. which I failed to realize until actually facing one, in an Assault Suit. and yes, I am very, very bitter about it. A stealth/spy/hacker type role is the one that I wish to play in this game, and it isn't truly feasible because the Suit that SHOULD be designed for it, is not.

Glad that someone else finally came into the light - now if everyone else does we might just have a unanimous vote that the scout suit is broken.

Don't care for stealth mechanics as the Scan Profile/Precision isn't very well explained in this build. Without explanation, we can't even be sure if it's working as intended. Cloaking mechanics would be silly IMO as it doesn't reinforce the Scout's speed tanking abilities. Might as well give it the same speed as an Assault Suit if we're going to make it cloaky.

I hate that the community wants the Scout to be a BF3 sniper. It's irritating beyond words as I personally see the scout as a fast skirmisher that harasses the enemy and disrupts it's frontlines so that friendly forces can move in. I've even dreamed of seeing Scouts with knives playing close quarters assassin types that go for signature targets like Heavies/Logistics and leaving before they get in too deep.

"Sniper Scouts" don't help anything as ANYONE can be a sniper. Being able to move fast and stay beneath radar (back to the aspect of not knowing how the scan system works) doesn't account for much when you can't survive being compromised.


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Scurvy Granger ZionTCD Legacy Rising 75	Posted - 2012.10.19 04:11:00 - [1] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Tyrus Madison wrote: Guess I really just needed a different perspective to realize it. You can do everything the Scout suit can do, in the Assault suit. Scout Suit has no real advantage over it. I'm wearing the Assault suit on this guy, and playing nearly the same way I played on my Scout character, and I don't feel any different at all, and I don't feel like I am missing anything. and in fact I am doing slightly better because my suit is more Sturdy and I can stand up against someone, instead of having to run. CCP needs to defiine exactly what the Scout Suit is for, and give it advantages towards that end. is it a Stealth Suit, or is it a face-to-face combat suit? if it is a Stealth Suit, then come out and say so, and put an end to all the bickering. and implement cloaking and make cloaking a distinct advantage of the Scout Suit. if you give cloaking to everyone, then the Scout suit STILL won't have a real, tangible advantage. if it is a face-to-face combat suit, then give its strafing speed back. right now, its basically a free kill. which I failed to realize until actually facing one, in an Assault Suit. and yes, I am very, very bitter about it. A stealth/spy/hacker type role is the one that I wish to play in this game, and it isn't truly feasible because the Suit that SHOULD be designed for it, is not. Glad that someone else finally came into the light - now if everyone else does we might just have a unanimous vote that the scout suit is broken. Don't care for stealth mechanics as the Scan Profile/Precision isn't very well explained in this build. Without explanation, we can't even be sure if it's working as intended. Cloaking mechanics would be silly IMO as it doesn't reinforce the Scout's speed tanking abilities. Might as well give it the same speed as an Assault Suit if we're going to make it cloaky. I hate that the community wants the Scout to be a BF3 sniper. It's irritating beyond words as I personally see the scout as a fast skirmisher that harasses the enemy and disrupts it's frontlines so that friendly forces can move in. I've even dreamed of seeing Scouts with knives playing close quarters assassin types that go for signature targets like Heavies/Logistics and leaving before they get in too deep. "Sniper Scouts" don't help anything as ANYONE can be a sniper. Being able to move fast and stay beneath radar (back to the aspect of not knowing how the scan system works) doesn't account for much when you can't survive being compromised. ^This and....^This -Scouts are useless this build with same strafe speed as heavy. -Sniper scouts are dumb when you can logi snipe and live through more than one hit -Cloak exclusive for Scout is intriguing, but if it's the only one that can cloak then you don't need extra speed -I do agree that scouts may have been a bit too fast last build, but this build is WAY too slow -A scout should be able to survive if compromised, however if someone runs at you with AR you are dead, the ARs have a pretty decent range and once they are within that range you can't get a shot in with a sniper rifle, and they stay far enough away to make your SMG useless so like I said...dead -Maybe when the game is completed we will see the real use for a scout suit, but this build they are seriously busted and extremely useless
Scurvy Granger ZionTCD Legacy Rising 75	Posted - 2012.10.19 04:26:00 - [2] - Quote Avenger 245 wrote: I'm not saying the scouts arnt broken but the early suggestion for them involved giving the more HP and combat related bonuses, and I think if you want to run scout to act as a nina killing everything that's slower then you should run assault. Scout is a recon and indirect support suit with limited combat capability. Its indirect and recon roles should be built upon not its combat powers. More Cpu/pg 25% more 10% faster 10% more stamina 10% faster reload and aim 20% lower profile More modules spread out amonst all the slots Moderation is good Use the assault suit and play the same way, you will see that the scout suit IS useless, at least in this build. But as long as CCP sees this problem and works to fix it then the Scout suit may not be useless upon release.